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Lead Paint and Old Clapboards

A homeowner looks for ways to rescue painted bevel siding on an 1860 house

Posted on Oct 30 2017 by Scott Gibson

Gregg Zuman's house in Beacon, New York, was built near the start of the Civil War, and like most any building of that era it's in need of a few repairs. At the moment, Zuman is stuck on what to do about the clapboard siding.

"It's slathered with lead paint, of course," Zuman writes in a Q&A post. "The issue is how to move ahead: figure out a way to remove the lead paint and apply a coat of 50-50 pine tar-raw linseed or cut losses, remove the old clapboard, replace with cedar clapboard, and apply 50-50 pine tar-raw linseed or suck it up, paint over the lead paint with decent lead-free paint, and embrace compromise."

The cheapest option probably will be painting over the lead paint, but Zuman worries that would make the wall a vapor impermeable barrier — something he wants to avoid at all costs.

The house is balloon framed, with no space between the framing and the siding — meaning no sheathingMaterial, usually plywood or oriented strand board (OSB), but sometimes wooden boards, installed on the exterior of wall studs, rafters, or roof trusses; siding or roofing installed on the sheathing—sometimes over strapping to create a rainscreen. . Zuman plans on using Airkrete insulation, and his overall objective is to "honor the history of the structure while updating the materials were needed with products free of fossil fuels."

How does he proceed? That's the issue for this Q&A Spotlight.

This wall needs a rainscreen

Lead is an obvious concern, says GBAGreenBuildingAdvisor.com senior editor Martin Holladay, and any prep work on the clapboards will need the help of a contractor who understands and follows lead-safe procedures. Even if the lead problem can be solved, however, Zuman will have a wall without an effective air barrierBuilding assembly components that work as a system to restrict air flow through the building envelope. Air barriers may or may not act as a vapor barrier. The air barrier can be on the exterior, the interior of the assembly, or both..

"If you leave the existing clapboard in place, you'll have a wall without a rainscreen and without a decent exterior air barrier," he says. "(Airkrete has a tendency to shrink away from the framing, so the Airkrete won't be airtight).

"I advise you to install new sheathing (installed in an airtight manner), new furring strips to create a rainscreen gap, and the siding of your choice. You'll have a much better wall if you follow this advice."

Dana Dorsett also would like to see Zuman introduce a gap behind the siding.

"Leaded paint is a true vapor barrier," Dorsett says. "If it's clapboards nailed directly onto the balloon framing (no plank sheathing) insulating the cavities will almost certainly cause the paint to fail in short years due to the high moisture content of the clapboards, followed by the nails &/or the clapboard itself.

"It has survived until now due to the clapboards' ability to dry quickly into the empty framing cavities," Dorsett continues. "That rapid drying will no longer happen if the insulation is allowed in contact with the clapboards. Whether keeping the original clapboard or installing new ones, providing at least a 1/4-inch deep (1/2 inch would probably be easier and better) vent cavity between the clapboards and the insulation would provide significant mitigation against those issues."

The paint will not be a vapor barrier

Zuman wants a vapor-permeable wall system, and one of his concerns is that the lead paint on the clapboards creates a vapor barrier. Should be be concerned?

Not really. Although, as Dorsett points out, lead paint is a true vapor barrier, as a practical matter that won't be a concern here.

"While Dana is correct that a perfect coat of lead-based paint, adequately thick, is a vapor barrier, you aren't legally allowed to have that," Holladay says. "You'll end up with old clapboards that have been scraped and prepped (using lead-safe practices) and coated with a modern lead-free paint.

"So if you keep the old clapboard and repaint it, you won't have an exterior vapor barrier. You'll have old clapboard with some flecks of older paint still clinging to it, but you won't have 100% coverage of lead-based paint."

The only real concern with lead paint is the toxicity of the lead, a particular risk for any children or pregnant women who may be living in the house.

Keeping the house fossil-fuel free

Zuman doesn't want materials in the house that are made with fossil fuels, so he's turning to alternatives such as Airkrete (an insulation whose principal ingredient is magnesium oxide), magnesium oxide board sheathing (MgO board), and (for the roof) Pavatex, a European wood fiber insulation.

"Basically all house builders until the end of WWI crafted homes using nontoxic materials," Zuman writes. "Since my house is in New York, I've chosen to insulate the roof with a material that's non-toxic and produced from a regenerative resource (cellulose has its own issues, though it was my first choice until I executed additional research). Sadly, the house building industry in the States, in my humble opinion, is stuck with sub-par options on so many levels."

Holladay notes that because Pavatex must be shipped from Europe to the U.S., there's a fair amount of fossil fuel consumption involved in transportation, even if the product itself isn't made with a petroleum-based foam.

But Zuman argued the fuels used in the final delivery of a product aren't significant in relation to the energy that went into developing and manufacturing.

"The embodied energyEnergy that goes into making a product; includes energy required for growth, extraction, and transportation of the raw material as well as manufacture, packaging, and transportation of the finished product. Embodied energy is often used to measure ecological cost. involved in producing the inputs and in producing the logistics related to production of the inputs of a final product typically so far outweighs final delivery mileage that I don't even consider such miles as relevant," he says. "That noted, shipping items between places is about 10 times more efficient on a fossil fuel basis than motor trucking items."

Further, Zuman's assertion that houses built before World War I are made with less toxic materials than houses today is just plain wrong, Holladay and others say.

Lead-based paint dates to colonial times, and asbestosMineral fiber once commonly used in many building materials, including insulation, fireproof siding, and resilient flooring. Inhalation of invisible asbestos fibers can lead to chest and abdominal cancers as well as scarring of the lungs. The use of asbestos in some products has been banned by the EPA and the U.S. Consumer Products Safety Commission; manufacturers also have adopted voluntary limitations on its use. When found in older buildings (most commonly in floor tiles, pipe and furnace insulation, or asbestos shingles), the product's friability is a major determinant in how it must be handled during renovations. More information: http://www.epa.gov/iaq/asbestos.html was first mined for use in insulation in 1858, he says. Steve Knapp adds that asbestos shingles and siding were introduced to the U.S. in 1907, while lead solder, coal and wood fires, and open-flame lighting all were environmental and health hazards that were common before World War I.

Old houses have their challenges

As Zuman, a first-time homeowner, ponders the complexities of saving an old house, he wonders just what he's got himself into.

"Tough choice here," he writes, "as the more I remove from the structure, the more of a fool I feel —
what did I purchase again? I'll be left with the balloon frame, the masonry, and the stone foundation including a stone lower floor wall that's an insulation challenge all in itself."

Installing new cedar siding would strip the house of some of its character and history, but whatever he does will not be cheap. His plan is now to work with a local contractor who will "scrub the siding and see how it goes." The idea is to clean up the existing siding as well as possible before coating it with a mix of pine tar and raw linseed oil, or another vapor-permeable finish.

John Clark admits he's not a huge fan of old wood houses, and says the real answer to Zuman's problems may be a bolt of lightning.

"Yes, as in ‘burn it down’ (I'm joking, kind of)," Clark says. "I don't put much weight in the historical value of old wooden homes. They're usually drafty, have odd dimensions, short ceilings, have structural issues, and much of their ‘value’ is locked up on the lot itself.

"Conversely, you could always do a gut rehab and just get it fixed," Clark continues. "Maybe look into a HomeStyle Renovation Mortgage where the cost to renovate is no more than 50% of the 'as completed' value of the home."

Our expert's opinion

Here's what GBA technical director Peter Yost has to say:

One option may be to encapsulate the lead paint on your siding. And I say this because you may have to limit the investment in your exterior wall claddingMaterials used on the roof and walls to enclose a house, providing protection against weather. since you have so many other bigger fish to fry. Many years ago here at the BuildingGreen offices in Brattleboro, Vermont, we used LeadLock. (Our offices are located in the former Estey Organ Factory, once the world’s largest manufacturer of parlor organs).

I agree that some sort of back-venting of your cladding is a good idea to maintain drying potential as you fill framing wall cavities with insulation. You should take a look at this GBA case study, where Jeff Medanich tried several different approaches to keeping existing siding in historic, originally unconditioned wood-framed cottages in Boulder, Colorado (admittedly, a drier climate than what you're dealing with).

I have always had reservations about AirKrete Insulation. Whenever I have asked the company about how well AirKrete stays bonded to surfaces like wood framing and sheathing — which tend to move quite a bit over time — they have stated they can add a proprietary agent to increase the material’s flexibility and bonding capabilities. Add? Why not require it or include this material automatically? A check of the AirKrete website reveals nothing about the airtightness characteristics of the material or any installations. I reviewed the sample specification offered on the AirKrete website and it includes nothing on airtightness. It does contain some woefully outdated text on “Vapor/Weather Barriers.”

Then there is a photo in the AirKrete photo gallery. It shows AirKrete being injected into an existing brick wall assembly — presumably brick veneer — filling the dedicated free-drainage and capillaryForces that lift water or pull it through porous materials, such as concrete. The tendency of a material to wick water due to the surface tension of the water molecules. space between the veneer and the rest of the wall assembly! Not every space should be filled with insulation! Sometimes spaces have a reason for being.

And as luck would have it, there is a new retrofit installation of AirKrete just accomplished in the last several weeks in my neck of the woods. It’s an historic wood-framed meeting house in northeastern coastal Massachusetts, with AirKrete used as cavity insulation. The retrofit project has been set up with a series of HOBO data loggers to measure conditions in the building space as well as sensors in walls. I will be working with the consultants on this project to see how the walls perform over time, including infrared imaging when depressurized to assess airtightness — stay tuned!


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Oct 30, 2017 9:31 AM ET

Edited Oct 30, 2017 9:35 AM ET.

Strip with poly tubing and soy
by Brendan Meyer

If the project presumes creating an air-barrier, you presume removing the siding. If you are removing the siding, you're halfway to salvaging the siding by removing the paint efficiently. Here's how. Buy heavy duty poly tubing. You can get it from a big office/warehouse product catalog. Poly tubing is for bagging up posters or rolled drawings but works great for lengths of millwork. It comes on rolls of varying widths, so get a dimension that fits the width of the clapboards. You unspool whatever length you need to fit the length of a clapboard. Remove the clapboards intact and remove nails. Bag each piece. Fill each bag with a paint remover of your choice. I prefer a soy based product. Follow directions for dwell time. Use a firm grip to remove the millwork from the bag while containing the waste in the bag (watch for splinters); discard the bag. Scrape any wet remnants. While still damp, soy remover can be rubbed out to bare wood with cloth rags much better than finishing with metal scrapers. Repeat the process on stubborn clapboards if necessary. Rinse to deactivate stripper. Install/finish.

A convenience of the bagging method is that you can set the bags aside to let the stripper do the work rather than use labor time. Of course all phases of work have to be lead-safe work practice, but if you can set up a big area for hand scraping the easy bits, that could improve the efficiency of the bagged stripper.


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Oct 30, 2017 9:52 AM ET

Another paint option
by Steve Knapp CZ 3A Georgia

Greg (in case you are still following this discussion),

You might want to consider potassium silicate paint. It is very vapor open and sticks tenaciously to most materials (except old chalky layers). It might be worthwhile for you to buy a sample, do a test section, ans see how it stands up over the winter.


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Oct 30, 2017 8:00 PM ET

Pine tar
by Sam S

I didn't see anyone in the original Q&A address the pine tar/linseed oil plan. I've used it here in Maine and think it's a great product. I'm happy to pull together some pictures if that would be helpful (rough pine board siding with black pine tar applied). The application is about three years old at this point, aging well.

It's pretty odorous, smoky but not 'bad' smelling. It goes away pretty quick, but you'll get a little bit of odor when it rains for about six months - again, just a smoky smell.


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Oct 31, 2017 8:48 AM ET

Re: Pine Tar paint
by Steve Knapp CZ 3A Georgia

Sam,

I would be interested in seeing your photos.


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Nov 1, 2017 7:08 AM ET

Exterior insulation over the clapboard
by Grant Walkin

I went through the same exercise with my old home in Toronto. I left the siding and installed two continuous layers of eps insulation. The first layer against the old siding was foil faced so that I could tape the seams and have my continuous air barrier. An additional advantage with this system is that I had foil facing up against the old siding , providing me with a radiant barrier.


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Nov 1, 2017 10:07 AM ET

Exterior insulation over the clapboard
by bill g

Grant,
I'm interested in how you did this. Do you have pics?
Bill G
ipedal@live.com


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Nov 5, 2017 10:39 AM ET

AirKrete and airtightness
by Peter Yost

Just a bit of follow up on this: I emailed the tech lead for AirKrete asking why there is no information on their website about air tightness performance of AirKrete--no response.

The data loggers of the NE Massachusetts meeting house cavity-insulated with AirKrete are not telling us anything yet about hygrothermal performance of the AirKrete but I will be following up on this in the coming months, and hopefully also get a chance to do some IR camera work there to see if we can evaluate sustained air leakage performance of the AirKrete cavity insulation.


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Nov 5, 2017 5:55 PM ET

old siding/ lead paint
by user-6818068

If there is room inside the building, add an interior wall starting from the exterior side with a WRB such as Typar, then taped plywood sheathing, then 2x4 or 2x6 frame with wiring in it and fill with dense pack cellulose, Membrain vapour barrier and drywall. The ballon frame continues to vent the siding like it has for + 150 years..The new wall is close to airtight, but vapour permeable, and the heating bill will be reasonable. Overcoat the lead paint with an appropriate product. .


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Nov 20, 2017 10:21 AM ET

Ballon construction
by TrueGrits101

My concern goes beyond the lead paint. For that I would reside with cedar. I am fond of old houses and grew up in one. That house was not balloon framed but was stone - 48" thick at the basement tapering to 24" at the second floor. Talk about thermal mass!

My greatest concern is balloon construction. As I understand balloon construction, the vertical structural members extend from the sill plate on the foundation all the ay to the roof - no fire stops. Five of my school friends were killed in a fire in a house built that way. Without the fire blocks and wood lathe/ plaster walls you have a natural chimney with nice dry wood on both sides! Our house did not use balloon construction because of the stone. Floor joists were a true 2x10 chestnut. And we tested the walls by drilling holes in the wall and dropping a fishing weight down on a string. So I would strip the siding, add fire stops, fill with mineral wool insulation, sheathe with plywood and reside with cedar boards or (my preference) cedar shingles.

BTW have you had the inside of the house checked for lead and asbestos? And has the electrical system been checked? In the house I grew up in, we had gas lights and these were disabled at the source, removed with the pipes left in the walls and plaster patched. The knob and pole wiring was replaced with flexible metal conduit. I do not remember whether it was grounded or not.

I also built a house in CT with cedar siding and used a bleaching oil for a finish for a nice cape cod look. It has since been banned.


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