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How can I best install rigid foam as I finish my attic?

Hi folks,

I'm finishing off my attic. The plan is to use fiberglass between the old true 2x6 rafters, which will be vented with baffles. I then want to put lots of rigid foam on top of the rafters, as I'm in a cold climate in upstate New York. I'm thinking 4 inches.

How can I find screws to long enough to fasten the furring strips through the foam to the rafters?

Will the foil-faced foam act as an adequate vapor-barrier as long as I seal the seams with aluminum tape?

Need I use any special drywall on top for adequate fire protection?

Thanks!

Asked by J Stair
Posted Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:51
Edited Fri, 10/19/2012 - 14:59

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Cold climate? Rigid foam inside attic before drywall? Or outside under shingles as you said "on top".

Rigid foam on one side, taped done in two layers and sealed well around perimeter may work. Moisture intrusion will be a disaster. Whether moisture gets in is to do with many details and how well whoever does following the "plan".

The more we seal up assemblies, the less forgiving.

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Answered by aj builder, Upstate NY Zone 6a
Posted Fri, 10/19/2012 - 16:58
Edited Fri, 10/19/2012 - 17:00.

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J STAIR,

Instead of using fiberglass between the rafters, I would put foam board in there. If you want all the R-value you can get for the available space, you will get more out of the foam than the fiberglass. Then if you want still more R-value than what is provided by foam between the rafters, you can put foam board over the inside edges of the rafters, and the drywall on top of that. You might consider 1” or 1 ½” foam between the drywall and the rafters.

If you want an air space on the cold side, the foam can be set with a gap to provide the air space, and then you won’t need any separate baffle as would be the case with fiberglass. I would cut the foam on a table saw for a tight friction fit between the rafters.

I may be misunderstanding you. I assume you want the foam added to the interior side of the rafters rather than on top of the roof deck. However, in any case, I do not understand what you are proposing for the use of furring strips.

That last layer of foam board between the drywall and the bottoms of the rafters should have its joints sealed vapor tight.

Answered by Ron Keagle
Posted Fri, 10/19/2012 - 19:51

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J Stair,
There may be a misunderstanding here. If you want to install "lots of rigid foam on top of the rafters," we assume you mean that you are installing it on top of the roof sheathing, followed by new roofing. That plan makes sense.

If you meant something else -- for example, if you meant that you really want to install lots of rigid foam underneath your rafters -- you should clarify the confusion.

Suppliers of long screws include:

Answered by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor
Posted Sat, 10/20/2012 - 07:06
Edited Sat, 10/20/2012 - 07:08.

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Sorry about the confusion. I'm talking about putting 3 or 4 inches of rigid foam between drywall and rafters. Furring strips would be used to attach foam to the rafters and then drywall to the furring. Thanks for those sources of screws!

Answered by J Stair
Posted Sat, 10/20/2012 - 09:13

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J. Stair,
Your plan will work, although your fiberglass batts won't do much unless you build site-make baffles that are airtight above the fiberglass batts.

Foil-faced foam is a perfectly good vapor retarder. It's a good idea to tape the seams with a compatible foil tape to make sure that the installation won't leak air.

Ordinary drywall is fine.

More information here: How to Build an Insulated Cathedral Ceiling.

Answered by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor
Posted Sat, 10/20/2012 - 13:07

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