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Trevor_Lambert | Posted in General Questions on

I got a quote for design and construction plans for my workshop/garage. It was higher than I was expecting, so I just wanted to get some opinions on whether it’s in the ballpark. I know prices will vary regionally. This is in SW Ontario.

The plan is a for about a 35×40 single level with electricity, water and septic hookup, fully conditioned, frost protected shallow foundation. I will provide a rough layout drawing, they’ll do the rest. The quote I got is C$7500 for detailed plans for both permitting and construction, but does not include an HVAC plan or grading and drainage plan. The building will also have a concrete storm shelter room inside it, I don’t know if that substantially affects design cost.

Thoughts?

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  1. Expert Member
    DCcontrarian | | #1

    For Washington, DC that would be cheap. But you couldn't get a building permit without an HVAC plan or a stormwater management plan (which would include grading and landscaping).

    1. Trevor_Lambert | | #2

      Yes, I am aware I also need that as well, just pointed it out because it must affect the cost of the plans.

  2. plumb_bob | | #3

    For my area (Northern BC)that would be expensive unless the cost includes a professionals stamp, such as architect or engineer. Is this the case?

    Our local designers charge about $100/hour, so that price would get you 75hrs of design time, and a building like you describe should be far less.

    1. Trevor_Lambert | | #9

      It does include a stamp. Any custom build needs a stamp, doesn't it?

      1. Expert Member
        MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #10

        TPLB,

        No. Some jurisdictions require an engineer's stamp, some don't. Not very many require an architect's stamp for single family residences.

  3. Expert Member
    Michael Maines | | #4

    I have designed garages that end up with design fees around 2% of construction costs, and houses with design fees around 15% of construction costs, and everything in between. A relatively detailed garage-type structure would probably be somewhere around 4% of construction costs for me (a designer) and the architects I compete with. I'd guess that your construction costs might be $150/sf, which is about $200K for the building and an $8K design fee. So I'd say it's in the ballpark, but it's a big ballpark.

    Not that I or my colleagues price things by the square foot, but we do post-mortems that are helpful in determining typical costs per square foot.

  4. Expert Member
    MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #5

    TPLB,

    Fair or not, the cost to get any labour or services is what someone in your area is willing to do it for.

    1. Expert Member
      DCcontrarian | | #6

      Yeah, "fair" is kind of a construct. For anything of any complexity you have to bid it out.

    2. Trevor_Lambert | | #8

      Yes, well I'm hoping to avoid going to a bidding process. This place was recommended, and I haven't even been able to find a place that provides a comparable service. I'm not looking to shave off a thousand or two by competitive bidding, but if the response was "that price is insanely high", I might look harder.

  5. nynick | | #7

    I think the price is fair if the Building Dept. will accept the drawings.

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