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Efficient low temperature conventional air source heat pumps

John Ranson | Posted in Mechanicals on

Hi,

Can anyone point to conventional air source heat pumps (not mini-split) that are highly efficient at low temperature? I’m looking for something that will work year round in Rochester, NY, zone 5. (7°F manual J design conditions, but it can hit -5°F worst case.) I’m in the middle of a house re-design, so my old manual J is out of date, but I expect the heating load to be 20-30kbtu/h at 7F.

Thanks,

John

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  1. Davor Radman | | #1

    I am sorry for not being helpful, but what is a "conventional" air source heat pump in USA? I though mini-split is a conventional one?

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    Martin Holladay | | #2

    John,
    The Lennox XP14 is an air-source heat pump with specs listed down to -15 degrees F.
    Heating capacity is 11,000 Btuh at 5 degrees F and 5,800 Btuh at -15 degrees F.

    https://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/sites/default/files/XP14_expanded_pg3.pdf

    Of course, your house may need more heat than this unit provides.

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    Martin Holladay | | #3

    Davor,
    In the U.S., most homes with heat pumps have complicated duct systems. In many cases, one duct system sends hot air to each room, while a second return-air duct system pulls air from one to four locations back to the appliance. The ducts are usually large.

    A unit called an air handler contains filters and a big fan. The air handler sends the air into the ductwork. These forced-air systems don't look anything like the minisplits that are common in Europe and Asia.

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    Martin Holladay | | #4

    John,
    You might consider the Trane XV20i. See the image below.
    Source of image:
    https://aceee.org/files/proceedings/2016/data/papers/1_700.pdf

    .

  5. Brad | | #5
  6. John Ranson | | #6

    The spreadsheet is interesting, but it has a lot of numbers that don't make sense to me. A number of units have almost identical rated and maximum capacities, but the COP at the two values will be markedly different.

    For instance:

    Rated: 37kbu/h, 4.52 COP
    Maximum 37.4kbu/h, 2.4 COP

    Are there really heat pumps where a 1% change in output drops the COP by 1/2?

    --John

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    Dana Dorsett | | #7

    JOHN RANSON:: With modulating systems the "rated" capacity is the modulated output at which the unit was tested for efficiency at +47F outdoor temperature, 70F indoors. The maximum capacity at +17F has to be at least as much as "rated" level at which it's efficiency was tested at +47F, but it can also be higher.

    At +17F the COP at the rated modulation level will be dramatically lower than the COP at +47F.

  8. Davor Radman | | #8

    Thank you Martin.

    Sorry for slightly hijacking thread, but I was actually very interested in a ducted system here, but nobody does it. Distribution is a problem with minisplit in a house with multiple rooms.

  9. John Ranson | | #9

    Hi Dana,

    I should have been more clear. They have columns for rated capacity at 17F and COP at rated capacity at 17F. I'm seeing these discrepancies at a single temperature.

  10. John Ranson | | #10

    Ah, I think I found the problem. It looks like they have bad data in the "Input Power at Rated Capacity 17F" column. It's identical to the "Input Power at Rated Capacity 47F" column.

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    Walter Ahlgrim | | #11

    I have a Rheem RP17 with the backup strips locked out when the temp is over 8°F. This heat pump did almost all the work last week when it got down to 0. The sales literature calls the unit a 3 stage unit but in fact the compressor runs at one of 5 different speeds.

    Walta

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