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Configuring Minisplits

doug_m_ | Posted in General Questions on

Hi Folks,

[EDIT 9/25: Checked with all the installers locally, no one does ducted units]

We have a 1200sqft, single story (with basement) in Zone 6 (northern  New Hampshire). Built in the 1950s, it’s been upgraded with insulation (R60 attic, blown fiberglass in the 2×4 walls, foamed rim and basement) and air-sealing. Blower door is 3.87ach50, Manual J heat load ~35,000btuh (attached).

We would like to replace our old oil boiler. We heat primarily with a woodstove, but want something that can keep the pipes from freezing if we leave in winter, and supplement the woodstove for convenience. On-site solar is a possibility in the next 1-2 years, so we’re interested in electric solutions.

The best local installer recommended a pair of Fujitsu ASU18RLF units indoors, each with a 18RLXFWH outdoor unit, both in the main kitchen/living area. His alternative was to put one in the main area, and a multi-split covering the bedrooms.

It seems to me the ideal would be a ducted unit covering the bedrooms – but no one in my area installs ducted units.

Thoughts on placing two units in the main area vs a multi split? From what I’ve read, I was going to steer away from the mult-split. We’re comfortable with a few degrees of temperature difference for the bedrooms – but haven’t read about any performance issues with two units in one space.

Thanks,
Doug

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  1. user-2310254 | | #1

    Doug,

    I'll give your post a bump.

  2. walta100 | | #2

    In my mind the electric boiler only makes sense when paired with net metered solar panels sized to power the boiler.

    The mini splits would be a good choice if you need/want cooling.

    I think if you put a fan in a window and used some smoke from incense sticks you could find and seal a lot of leak and do much better than 3.8 ACH

    Walta

    1. doug_m_ | | #4

      Thanks Walter

  3. brp_nh | | #3

    I'm (probably) south of you in Jackson, we have a two story 1300+ sq ft "Pretty Good House" that we heat/cool with a single mini split (Mitsubishi FH12NA) on the first floor. There are some temp differences between the floors and rooms, but it generally works well considering it's one fairly small unit. We have wall heaters in bedrooms/bathrooms for backup, but rarely use them (pretty much only if overnight temps expected to hit -20f). I'm just a homeowner that was heavily involved in the build, so I'm not an expert or consultant, so take my advice with that note in mind!

    I would recommend going the mini split route vs the electric boiler because they offer cooling/dehumidification.

    If you primarily heat with wood and add the mini split(s), putting a lot of effort and money into electric baseboard or cove heaters seems overkill. If you feel like you need to do that, I'd look into these 120v plugin wall heaters from Convectair as they're easy to install and easy to take down if not needed:
    https://www.convectair.ca/en/products/120v-plugin/apero

    For mini split sizing and placement, I've often seen advice on GBA that putting a single unit in a bedroom can sometimes be overkill, but maybe Bedroom 1 would be a good candidate for the small Fujitsu unit. The options given to you by the installer may be ok or great, I don't have enough expertise to judge that, but you could consider starting with the 18RLXFWH/ASU18RLF combo in the main area, and then add on after you live with it for a year.

    If possible, I would also recommend mounting the outdoor unit on an elevated pedestal vs on an exterior wall. It's not horrible, but we've found the noise/vibration from the outdoor unit can be annoying when it's working really hard in harsh winter conditions.

  4. doug_m_ | | #5

    Thanks Brian. Yep - we're a bit farther north. I hadn't seen the convectair heaters, I'll consider those. We will almost certainly do the 18k in the main area, and may do as you say by stopping there for this year to see how it goes. I like the idea of a ducted unit for the bedrooms, but will need to find a decent installer. Thanks for the tip on the pedestal!

  5. kyle_r | | #6

    I would suggest going with the 15k, lower modulation without too much difference in capacity.

    1. doug_m_ | | #7

      Thank Kyle, I didn’t realize the 15k had better modulation. I’ll look up the specs.

      1. Jon_R | | #8

        Note that lower modulation doesn't mean better modulation - it could easily provide lower efficiency and less dehumidification.

        1. doug_m_ | | #9

          Good point. Thanks Jon.

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