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Installing an Exterior Sump Pump

Drew Baden | Posted in General Questions on

Hi guys. New build soon. I’m going to install an interior sump but I also would like to implement an exterior sump but I’m unsure how to place it.

My first thought says stand a culvert pipe on end and drop a sump down to the bottom, but I’m hopeful others with experience have a real world example of how to install such an idea they can share?
thank you.

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  1. Expert Member
    Zephyr7 | | #1

    The easiest way to do it is to get a precast manhole or storm drain assemly and use that. All you'll have to do is core a few holes in the sides for plumbing and electrical lines and you're good to go. You can get solid or grate (drain type) lids too. Easy and quick (relatively :-)

    Bill

  2. Walter Ahlgrim | | #2

    How do we insure the pump will not freeze?

    Where will it discharge to?

    Will it have an alarm circuit to signal you should the pump fail?

    Walta

    1. Expert Member
      Zephyr7 | | #3

      As long as the sump pit is deep enough, it won’t freeze. If you look down a storm drain in winter, you’ll find the water in the bottom of the deeper drains isn’t frozen.

      A high level alarm to indicate pump failure is a good idea.

      Bill

    2. Drew Baden | | #4

      Frost line here is about 40” and this pump will sit more than 120” into the abyss with a cover over the entrance.
      Hello Walter. Plans are to discharge the pump into the culvert where the other sump and rain runoff will empty. I’ll definitely have an alarm system. This exterior pump is “primary” sump, I’ll have another in a crock in the basement at a higher set point as the exterior pump and will have an alarm as well.
      I’m in a wet area. It never made sense why convention says channel perimeter water under the floor and into the house only to mitigate and pump it back outside.

      1. Expert Member
        Zephyr7 | | #5

        If you go with a precast manhole, you'll get all the fun of dealing with the manhole cover -- which is about 150 pounds or so of cast iron. Get yourself a "manhole hook" to make things easier. All a manhole hook is is a handle with a curved hook on one end that you can slip into the lift slots/holes and lever the manhole cover up off the ring in the manhole so that you can slide the cover off. It's not super difficult once you've done it a few times. You can buy manhole hooks, or just make your own. I made mine a long time ago from a length of steel rod that I bent on my metal bender. Most manhole hooks are made from steel rod around 5/8" diameter or so. I wouldn't go smaller than about 1/2" or it will bend too much when you use it.

        Bill

  3. Expert Member
    Malcolm Taylor | | #6

    Drew,

    Out here we often do as you suggest, using a culvert with slits or holes cut in the sides. It works well, but we don't have frost heave, and I wonder whether the corrugations might cause problems in colder climates? Maybe the surrounding drain-rock insulates it from that?

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