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Everlast Siding and J-Channel at windows

monkeyman9 | Posted in General Questions on

I’m going back and forth between Everlast siding and vinyl ( CertainTeed monogram).

I like Everlast other than one flashing detail I can’t figure out. How do you handle the J-channel at the bottom of windows?

On vinyl I’d place wide flashing tape or aluminum flashing under the bottom of the J-Channel and over the first full course of vinyl underneath. Because of how everlast interlocks, I can’t figure how you’d do the same.

I have some windows 25ft up that would drain water underneath the siding the whole way down.

Side note. I starter with LP smartside 6 years ago and maybe I got a bad batch but having some delamination. All ends and bottoms painted well too…my luck.  So sucking it up and moving to something else.

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  1. Patrick OSullivan | | #1

    > Side note. I starter with LP smartside 6 years ago and maybe I got a bad batch but having some delamination. All ends and bottoms painted well too…my luck. So sucking it up and moving to something else.

    Why aren't you pursuing this with LP?

    1. monkeyman9 | | #2

      I could. But honestly I think they will call it installation error as I used 3/4 trim. So the siding sticks slightly past the trim. Ends were fully primed and caulked though. I really didn't get that far with it either. A bump out and 2 small sections. At the moment I have a full 1000 sqft gabel end ripped off ready for siding.

  2. Kyle R | | #3

    I believe Everlast requires pocketed trim around windows and doors

    1. monkeyman9 | | #4

      I guess that's my concern. If it's pocketed and you can't flash between the bottom pocket in the next course of siding all the water goes behind the siding from the bottom j channels. Pic attached (found on another site) showing how I do vinyl to avoid this. I can't figure how you do this with Everlast though.

      1. Kyle R | | #5

        I can’t say I’ve used that detail before. If using vinyl (back ventilated siding), I have not worried about getting residual (not bulk) water behind the siding as long as the Wrb is properly installed.

        1. monkeyman9 | | #6

          Fair enough. That's probably 99 of 100 installs too. With the Everlast it doesn't have vents or and edge that pulls water off the wall. So it looks like it wouldn't dry out like vinyl. Maybe vinyl is best for me... I just like the looks of everlast.

          1. Kyle R | | #7

            That’s a good point that might deserve it’s own q of a. Does Everlast and products like it count as back ventilated cladding or should it be installed over a rain screen? What about vinyl with a foam backer?

  3. monkeyman9 | | #8

    Good question. I decided against insulated vinyl due to the thickness and the polystyrene being against the house. Figured it wouldn't drain well enough in my situation. I bought Benjamin Obdyke Hydrogap to put over my mix of plywood and zip (diff house sides depending if I repaired rotted sheathing and studs). North side I had to rip fully apart and zip after.

  4. monkeyman9 | | #9

    Vinyl vs Everlast pic.

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