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Nails for LP Smartside on Rainscreen

Salesi | Posted in General Questions on

Has anyone installed LP smartside on 3/4 furring strips on exterior foam insulation? We are getting ready to side our house and I know LP smartside list on their website that an alternate is to use a 2 x 4 for the furring strip. However I do not want to use a 2 x 4. Has anyone used 3/4 furring strips for LP Smartside, if so what type and size of nail did you use? Any issue with wind or anything else? I know it will void the warranty.

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  1. ohioandy | | #1

    My most recent use of LP Smartside was an entire house of 3/4" pine firring strips secured with screws through 3" continuous exterior foam and sheathing and into studs. I used collated clipped-head 2'' or 2.375" ring shank nails, all concealed nailing except at rakes and certain other awkward situations. Stainless steel not necessary, IMO. Works like a charm, no wind (at least nothing short of a tornado) is going to yank these out, even from the dubious quality of #2 graded strips. IIRC, there is a product bulletin from LP that references this protocol as acceptable. The warranty issue has been discussed at length on this site, and I think that warranty on this product is just not something that will ever be an issue. You could use a higher quality plywood cut into strips, but the nature of a rainscreen is such that I think pine is perfectly resilient, and the pullout resistance in the real world is such that 2x4 is overkill.

  2. Salesi | | #2

    Thanks for the reply. I have a Hitachi nailer that works with 2-3/8 galvanized ring shank nails and the head is probably 3/8" diameters and .131 shank. I will be using 1-1/2 polyiso foam with 1 x 3 furring strips screwed into the studs. Do you remember which bulletin you referenced is available? Thanks.

  3. ohioandy | | #3

    Salesi, I can't find the technical bulletin I thought I remembered. Reading LP's installation instructions, it sure is quite specific on installations over continuous exterior foam. Requires 1.5" furring. Another bulletin references installation on masonry walls, specifying nominal 1x4's with a specific gravity (i.e. yellow pine, probably) and then doubling the nailing schedule to two nails per strip.

    Nope, I guess installation is not allowed over 1x3's over foam, but I'm still confident enough to warrant my work on the project, and would do the same again.

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      MALCOLM TAYLOR | | #4

      Andy,

      Ring shank nails through into 3/4" stock are next to impossible to get out. I can't understand why some siding manufacturers are being so conservative about their attachment requirements, and some others with similar products aren't.

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