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Energy-Efficient Garage Doors

Unfortunately, advertised R-values are meaningless

Posted on Feb 12 2010 by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

If you’re shopping for a garage door, the door’s energy performance may not matter — especially if you don’t heat your garage. However, there are a few reasons why you might be looking for a well-insulated, draft-free garage door:

  • A good overhead door on an attached garage can keep the garage — and therefore the house — a little warmer than a leaky door.
  • Since cars can be hard to start in sub-zero weather, homeowners in very cold climates — even those with unheated garages — may want a garage door that limits heat loss.
  • If the garage is used for vehicle maintenance or woodworking projects, it may occasionally be heated.

So, how do you tell a high-performance garage door from a lemon?

“We sell high R-valueMeasure of resistance to heat flow; the higher the R-value, the lower the heat loss. The inverse of U-factor. doors!”
Many garage-door manufacturers advertise the R-values of their doors:

  • CEDO advertises doors with R-17.09 polyurethane insulation.
  • Clopay advertises that some of its doors are R-17.2.
  • Overhead Door advertises that “a 17.5 R-value makes the 490 Series among the most thermally efficient doors you can buy.”
  • Raynor advertises “R-values from 12.0 - 18.0.”
  • Wayne-Dalton advertises garage doors with R-15 insulation.

Unfortunately, these advertised R-values are almost meaningless.

Advertised R-values are inaccurate, irrelevant — or both
To determine the thermal performance of a garage door, you need to know two things:

  • The door’s leakiness, and
  • The R-value or U-factorMeasure of the heat conducted through a given product or material—the number of British thermal units (Btus) of heat that move through a square foot of the material in one hour for every 1 degree Fahrenheit difference in temperature across the material (Btu/ft2°F hr). U-factor is the inverse of R-value. of the entire door assembly.

The R-values that are trumpeted by garage-door manufacturers are measured at the center of one of the door panels. No manufacturer, as far as I can determine, reports the R-value of the entire door assembly (including the panel edges, the seams between panels, and the perimeter of the door) in their promotional materials. Moreover, manufacturers’ reported R-values tell us nothing about air leakage.

Most garage-door manufacturers are reluctant to share actual laboratory reports showing the results of R-value testing. When I asked Mike Willstead, a technical representative for Raynor, if I could see a copy of Raynor’s test results, he suggested I send him an e-mail. He later e-mailed his response: “I apologize if I misled you. I was informed that this is proprietary information that will not be disclosed.”

The window industry does a much better job
More than a decade ago, responsible window manufacturers realized that the reputation of their industry was being damaged by misleading R-value and U-factor claims. (U-factor is the inverse of R-value; in other words, U=1/R and R=1/U). To address these problems, industry leaders developed a method for testing and reporting whole-window U-factors. The U-factor reported on an NFRC label accurately describes the U-factor of the entire window, including the sash frame and the window frame — not just the center-of-glass U-factor.

When it comes to accurate reporting of U-factors or R-values, however, the garage door industry is years behind the window industry.

There’s nothing to prevent garage-door manufacturers from using the NFRC testing and labeling protocol — a protocol that yields a more honest and useful result than the center-of-panel numbers trumpeted by garage-door marketers. Alternatively, garage-door manufacturers could use the voluntary consensus standard (ANSIAmerican National Standards Institute. National nonprofit membership organization that coordinates development of national consensus standards. Accreditation by ANSI signifies that the procedures used meet the Institute’s essential requirements for openness, balance, consensus, and due process. /DASMA 105) for reporting whole-door U-factors adopted by the Door and Access System Manufacturers Association (DASMA). A technical data sheet (DASMA TDS #163) describes this testing protocol, dubbed the “tested installed door” protocol by DASMA.

“For marketing purposes, the garage door people get a measurement on the center of panel,” said David Yarbrough, a research engineer and insulation expert at R&D Services in Cookeville, Tennessee. “The overall R-value of the entire door might be quite a bit less — in extreme cases, it may be half — of the R-value of the center of the panel. Not everyone approves of this kind of marketing. It’s been a hot debate in recent years.”

In fact, the percentage turns out to be much less than half.

Actual R-values are one-third the advertised values
Although it’s hard to obtain actual test results that report the whole-door U-factors of “tested installed doors,” I managed to obtain one report on a garage door from Clopay, and another on a garage door from Overhead Door.

Clopay provided test results for their model 3720 five-panel garage door. According to Mischel Schonberg, Clopay’s public relations manager, the door is insulated with 2 inches of polyurethane foam. Schonberg wrote, “This model is the commercial version of our residential model 9200 and has the same construction.”

While Clopay advertises that the 9200 door is R-17.2 — presumably, a claim based on a center-of-panel measurement — the test report for the installed door shows R-6.14.

While Overhead Door advertises that their model 494/495 Thermacore door has an R-value of 17.5 — a claim that, like competitors’ claims, is presumably based on a center-of-panel measurement — the test report for the installed door shows a U-factor of 0.16, equivalent to R-6.25.

Based on the only two test reports that I was able to track down, it seems logical to conclude that the R-value of a garage door is about one-third of the R-value claimed in a manufacturer’s brochure.

All over the map
Mike Thoman, the director of thermal testing and simulation at Architectural Testing Incorporated, a Pennsylvania laboratory, has tested many garage doors.

“The assembly R-values are not going to be nearly as good as the R-value of the material would indicate,” Thoman told me recently. “When you compare the assembly R-value to the material R-value, the percentages are all over the map. The percentage is a function of how the joints in the panels are made, and whether any attempt was made to provide for thermal breaks at panel edges — a lot of different things. Some products have a lot of insulation in the panel but have everything else wrong. We’ve also seen doors that do everything right. There’s really a wide, wide range.”

Are the reported R-values even accurate?
There’s another potential problem with the R-values reported by garage-door manufacturers: even if one accepts the fact that the advertised R-values represent center-of-panel values rather than whole-door values, the numbers are still higher than most insulation experts believe are possible.

Several manufacturers report that their polyurethane-insulated door panels have R-values between R-8.6 and R-9.0 per inch — values that are highly unlikely if not technically impossible, even for the center of a door panel.

“The R-value of polyurethane decreases with age,” said Yarbrough. “When it is absolutely fresh you might get R-7.5 per inch, but a realistic aged R-value would be lower — perhaps about R-6.5 per inch would be on the high end. I’m not sure I can explain these reported test results. I have seen labs make mistakes before. I think it’s an error.”

One garage-door distributor who doubts the accuracy of manufacturer’s R-value claims is Bill Feder, the president of Door Services Incorporated of Portland, Maine. On his own initiative, Feder sent a garage-door panel (Overhead Door model 194) to Yarbrough’s lab, R&D Services. The ASTMAmerican Society for Testing and Materials. Not-for-profit international standards organization that provides a forum for the development and publication of voluntary technical standards for materials, products, systems, and services. Originally the American Society for Testing and Materials. C518 test conducted by Yarbrough came up with a value of only R-7.83 for the 1 3/8-inch-thick panel. Yet Overhead Door advertises that the door is R-12.76 — or R-9.28 per inch.

Feder’s R-value challenge
“If anyone calls me about a door, I tell them about my R-value challenge,” Feder told me. “I will give anyone a check for $250 if they can bring in a document that shows that a 1 3/8-inch-thick garage door has an R-value of 12. They can’t do it.”

Unfortunately, Feder’s admirable challenge has not yet shamed the garage-door industry into correcting the numerous exaggerations in their product specifications.

What about air leakage?
If the day ever comes when garage-door manufacturers follow the path blazed by their more honest brothers and sisters in the window industry — that is, if they ever decide to report whole-door U-factors or whole-door R-values — an important piece of the door-rating puzzle will still be missing. The reason: when it comes to the thermal performance of garage doors, air leakage matters much more than R-value.

“Garage doors are so leaky that they are difficult to test,” Thoman said. “Their leaks exceed the capabilities of the available testing apparatus.”

When he needed to buy a garage door for his own house, Thoman ignored advertised R-values. “I find it almost offensive that garage-door manufacturers even publish the R-value of the insulation material,” Thoman told me. “I hate it when I see that, because it’s not a representation of the door’s performance. Air leakage is a much more important issue than the R-value of the door.”

The bottom line
Although some garage-door manufacturers have measured the whole-door U-factor and air-leakage characteristics of their doors, most won’t release the data. Until they do, purchasers of garage doors have to select their doors based on anecdotes.

If any readers have identified a garage door that limits air leakage, please tell us the brand. When you post your garage door recommendations, provide your full name — so we can tell the garage-door salespeople from the architects, builders, and homeowners.

“I tell customers that the R-value of the door should be the last thing you should think about,” Bill Feder told me. “Instead, look at the seals and the hardware. On my own garage I just have a raised-panel cedar door.”

Last week’s blog: “It’s OK to Skimp On Insulation, Icynene Says.”


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1.
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 11:19

Please consider a follow up piece
by Kyle

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Nice piece Martin! You have established the many problems of finding accurate whole door thermal performance information on garage doors. Now we know the problems but how do we sort the wheat from the shaft? Would you please consider writing a follow up blog post on which doors are "doing everything right" in the words of Mike Thoman? If you focused on exactly what "doing everything right" is in terms of door construction that could be very instructive. Thanks!


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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 11:28

I hope I can do a follow-up
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Kyle,
I'm depending on the community of GBA readers to contribute recommendations on good garage doors (and even installation tips that limit infiltration).

Sorting the wheat from the chaff is frustratingly difficult. Mike Thoman was unable to release specifics on the brand names of better doors because of confidentiality agreements signed with the manufacturers who submit their doors for testing.

Manufacturers are tight-lipped and reluctant to release lab reports.

This is what I know:
-- Designs that minimize air leakage are the best, so look for good gaskets between panels and heavy-duty weatherstripping at the bottom of the door.
-- Thin-gauge steel doesn't last as long as heavier gauge steel, so avoid doors with thin 32-ga. steel. Look instead for 24 ga. or 25 ga. steel -- or just choose a wood-panel door.


3.
Fri, 02/12/2010 - 11:41

Re: I hope I can do a follow-up
by Kyle

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Thanks for the thoughtful response Martin.


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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 09:49

Installation will be key
by Andrew Henry

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As you point out Martin... "and even installation tips that limit infiltration".

Even the most thoughtfully designed door's energy efficiency detailing will be defeated by the installer.


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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 09:53

Or, more optimistically ...
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Andrew,
On a more positive note, I would say "may be defeated" instead of "will be defeated."


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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:08

Creeping Pessimism
by Andrew Henry

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Martin,

Sorry, the pessimistic tense I used just sub-consciously crept in! Perhaps it was based on experience.

On a slight tangent to the topic of the post I'd ask the question... "Should garages be attached to living spaces in a green home in the first place?"

That said, I know that many people use garages as their workshop so garage doors that are well sealed and insulated are nevertheless needed.

Andrew


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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:37

On attached garages
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Andrew,
I'm not a fan of attached garages because of IAQ concerns.

In snowy or rainy climates, a detached garage can be connected to the house with a narrow unconditioned breezeway.


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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 17:22

U-values of garage doors
by Rick Marshall

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Well informed article, and very timely for me. I serve on a task group that is writing new building efficiency standards for Canada, and we are currently considering mandating U-values and test procedures for overhead doors. Thanks for the insight.


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Tue, 02/16/2010 - 05:16

Good luck, Rick
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Rick,
I'm glad the article was useful. And good luck with your efforts to mandate U-factors and test procedures for overhead doors. I look forward to seeing what your task group recommends.


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Fri, 02/26/2010 - 17:46

R-Values Of Garage Doors
by Bill Feder

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Hi Martin.

You were to kind to the manufacturers of garage doors.
The true R-value of garage doors is closer to a 1/4 of what they publish.

By the way, we have increased our "R- Value Challenge" to $500.00.
Still no takers.


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Fri, 03/19/2010 - 12:06

Look at the Garaga Standard Plus
by Jim Verrette

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I would like to hear your thoughts on the Garaga Standard Plus. I am a home owner currently shopping for a door. Your article confirmed many of my suspicions.

Thanks,
Jim


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Fri, 03/19/2010 - 12:35

I'm not familiar with it
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Jim,
I've had no experience with the Garaga Standard +.


13.
Fri, 03/19/2010 - 20:27

Anything on Thermacore 190 or 490 series
by Mark O

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Very good article. I'm in the process of looking for two doors. Have you heard of anything on Overhead Door's Thermacore 190 or 490 series. The 490 series claims the R-value as 17.5, while the 190 series claims an R-value of 12.76. I can't seem to find out the steel gauge but I assume it is 24 or 25. Any info would help

Thanks


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Wed, 04/28/2010 - 09:26

Most Homeowners Are Too Overwhelmed
by Jim

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We install and repair doors all day, and, unfortunately, for a lot of people energy efficiency still isn't at the top of their list when it comes to the garage door. We try our best to educate, but often times the most homeowners are willing to go is repairing or adding rubber stop molding. I think what the industry needs is, like you mentioned, less anecdotes and more scientific evidence like the window manufacturers have. Some quantifiable facts about how installing the proper door is going to save them X dollars a year.

Jim from Cleveland Garage Door Repair


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 09:38

R-value depends on weather strip etc...
by Scott

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We are a manufacturer of carriage doors in Maine with weather all over the map. I have found that R-value is indeed misleading. We tell people exactly what you have stated here - that panel core and thickness do matter (we prefer polyiso instead of the cheap white foam board), but more important is the weather seal around the sides and the door bottom as well as integrity of the concrete surface the door sits on.

Also, look for a door section that has a good male/female interlocking frame - you'd be surprised by the weather that can sneak in between the panels. It's true that the entire "package" should be rated and results provided to the customer and yes, proper installation of both door and weather seal can make or break the entire system.


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 09:41

Garaga
by Scott

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I just saw your post jim. We sell Garaga weather seal with our custom carriage doors. It's one of the best on the market with a double rubber seal around the top and side jambs. - Scott from Maine Doors.


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 09:43

testing
by Scott

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Bill Feder is right. The testing is misleading and fairly expensive for a company to do because it's really not about the door - it's about the entire package. If it's installed improperly - you're wasting your money on a high R door.


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 09:44

correction
by Scott

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If it's NOT installed properly - a waste of money on a high R value door!!


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 13:38

Sealing the door is the ticket!
by Rod P.

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Great article! In fact, it inspired me to post info on my own garage door replacement, since a number of people asked me how I did mine. Info is here... http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7aq8e/pictures/id8.html and again, thanks for the article.
-Rod


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Mon, 05/17/2010 - 15:39

Prey on the unknowing
by Lynn Heaps

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Door manufactors have been doing this for years. When I get a call from a customer and the first thing they ask is R -value of our doors I know my work is cut out for me. I can show samples with the same insulation and thickness with wildly different claimed R values. If they are lying about this what else are they lying about??? The same applies to gauge of steel on panels. 25 gauge is not the same thickness among manufactors. This principles applies to track, hinges, rollers, springs, etc... Thermo breaks between panel and end stiles along with perimater and bottom seal is also very important.. Keep in mind this is the largest moving part on a home and there will be trade offs. Bottom line different types of insulation only have so much R per inch. Do the manufactors claims match this?


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Thu, 05/27/2010 - 09:29

Energy Tax Credit
by Chris

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I recently bought new windows for my bedroom, and knowing what type and applying for the energy tax credit was real simple. The window industry just has their stuff together, whereas the garage door industry hasn't quite caught on to making things simple for the consumer. Found this resource that lists all the different door manufacturers and the models that qualify for the energy tax credit. Pretty helpful to have it all in one place.
Chicago Garage Door


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Thu, 05/27/2010 - 09:35

Very ironic
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Chris,
It's ironic indeed that all U.S. taxpayers are subsidizing the installation of these garage doors, which:
1. Are mostly installed on unheated garages; and
2. Are promoted by deceitful manufacturers that exaggerate the doors' R-values.

It's scandalous -- more evidence, if any is needed, that these tax credits are designed to help manufacturers push products, not to help homeowners save energy.


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Sat, 06/19/2010 - 00:33

Thanks Martin for this useful
by custom doors

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Thanks Martin for this useful article...Even the most helpfully designed door's energy efficiency detailing will be defeated by the installer...


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Fri, 08/20/2010 - 01:54

Garage Door Installation
by Garage Door Installation

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Very useful information Martin. It helps me how I need to consider U-factor and R-value. As far as I know, the U-factor is typically used with windows as a measurement of how well the product insulates. And coming to R-value, if you find a garage door, for instance, that is thick, the R value might be as high as 6.5. However if you find a lower priced garage door that is made with inexpensive materials, the R value might be something like 4.3. While the numbers may not seem that different, they are. Thanks !


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Fri, 08/20/2010 - 21:18

Thanks to Everyone who Posted!
by Keri

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Alaska has an energy rebate program (in addition to the federal program) - up to $10,000 for energy related improvements... some hoops to jump through, but its a great deal. The post on 5/27 gave me a good starting place compare products - plus, it is good to know about the Garaga product. I'll do some cost comparisons locally. Now for the windows, a new boiler/water unit... and some elbow grease to caulk/insulate the gaps!


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Mon, 09/20/2010 - 13:39

Which door should I buy?
by EJ

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Just looking for opinions here...

I can spend $1595 on a R 15.38 door (which as noted above is a misleading metric), that according to my installer has very good air leakage properties from the panel design.

Or I can spend $1050 on a R 8.72 door with poorer leakage problems, but still get the tax credit.

Since my garage is not heated, and between the wife and I the door will be opening and closing several times a day, I think saving the $500 is the smart way to go. There is a bedroom that's beside but above the garage that gets cold in the winter, but I'm thinking if I just open the attic above the garage and put in a good level of insulation along that wall we'll see much better energy savings than from the door we pick.


27.
Wed, 11/03/2010 - 11:54

Comment on insulation for garage doors
by Garage Doors

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Finally some candid talk about the real value of insulation in a garage door. It is long overdue.


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Tue, 02/08/2011 - 13:40

Insulated Garage Doors
by Bill Feder

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Hi Martin:

I just went back to this article you wrote last year and noticed all the comments and questions. There are a few I would like to respond to.

We did test Overhead Doors Model 190 series. The sample tested had an R-value of 7.83. They publish an R-value of 12.76. What’s interesting about this door is that Overhead’s certified statement says that the door has a U-value of .24 or an R-value of 4.17.

We tested a Garaga 138 sample and it came back with an R-value of 7.89. They publish a 12.

If you maintain a 65 degree temperature year round in your garage the actual savings between a door with an R-value of 12 and one with a 4 will be about 7.83 annually.

We recently tested in insulated rolling steel door. The manufacturer published an R-value of 8. The test came back with an R-value of 0.6. If you add air films you would have an R-value of 1.45. Unbelievable.


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Tue, 02/08/2011 - 13:46

Response to Bill Feder
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Bill,
Thanks for sharing all of your updated test results. I wish the FTC would prosecute the door manufacturers that continue to lie in their advertising.


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Thu, 03/31/2011 - 09:57

An honest manufacturer
by Charles White

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I sell and install garage doors and we use the manufacturer C.H.I. I believe they are actually honest in their R value publications, their brochures and their specifications sheets use the terminology DASMA TDS #163. I have been hurt as a business several times going up against the manufacturers you've mentioned in this article, because of their inflated values. How do people believe a garage door that's 1 1/2" thick is providing them an R value of 17? I'm sure because it's in writing right on the brochure! I do believe CHI is representing themselves accurately, but it appears to be at a cost. Please see their website at chiohd.com I think you will add them to your list of manufacturers that are trying to play by the real world rules even if it is at a cost.


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Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:48

Thermacore 190 or 490 series / Legacy 696
by marcia bethany

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We are looking for 2 garage doors/openers and have an estimate from Overhead Doors for their Thermacore 190 and 490 series and Overhead Door Legacy 696. Has anyone purchased these doors/openers? Any information would be helpful. Thanks.


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Fri, 04/08/2011 - 11:51

Response to Marcia
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Marcia,
You are more likely to get an answer if you post your question on the Q&A page, which is here:
http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/qa


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Mon, 07/16/2012 - 21:12

Kudos to Haas Doors
by James Talmage

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I'm building a new garage and found this post very helpful. Thank you Martin. Despite this being a 2 year old post, it seems the industry isn't any more forthcoming with installed door testing now than it was at the time of writing.

One notable exception is Haas Doors. They've taken a step in the right direction by publishing independently tested R-Values for the full door assembly:

http://www.haasdoor.com/about/insulation.html

Kudos to them. I would guess a lot of manufacturers making good doors are reluctant to publish this information for fear the uninformed consumer would incorrectly assume their doors offer inferior insulation properties. Haas posts it right next to the sectional R-Value, allowing you to see that they compare favorably to the rest of the industry on that (mostly meaningless) measure.

I'm probably going to choose them for my door simply because of their attempt to be honest (It doesn't hurt that they come recommended from a trusted source).

Does anybody else know of a company that posts this information publicly?


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Thu, 01/31/2013 - 09:26

Garage doors
by Ian Brown

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The door manufacturers claims could revolutionize the housing industry.
With R-15 to 17 ratings, prefinished and textured finish, it would be cheaper to clad the outside of a house and achieve an R-40 +/- wall rating, using garage door panels.
A challenge for the door people, if they read this.


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Thu, 03/07/2013 - 11:34

outswing carriage doors
by Paul Decker

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Do you think that outswing carriage doors would be more efficient, I am building a garage shop that will have very limited garage use but would like to insure that there is some sealing around the doors and it seemed to me that it would be easier to seal outswing solid doors more efficiently?. Thanks


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Tue, 06/25/2013 - 14:23

Alaska Garage Doors
by Emil Mackey

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Good article. However, if you live in Alaska (Climate Zone 7) and the garage is heated and contains mechanicals (Washer, Drier, and Water Heater), wouldn't the R-18 Clopay that is really an R-7 make sense (with improved sealing, of course)? Or should I just stick with my current wood-paneled door?


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Tue, 06/25/2013 - 14:35

Response to Emil Mackey
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Emil,
Q. "Wouldn't the R-18 Clopay that is really an R-7 make sense (with improved sealing, of course)? Or should I just stick with my current wood-paneled door?"

A. If you live in Alaska -- install both.


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Fri, 08/23/2013 - 10:59

Alaska Options
by Andreas Hermansky

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Martin,
Finding your article was.. inspiring!
It has been 3yrs 6 months since you published it - Has anything changed?
Living in AK, building energy efficient, ironically, is NOT that easy. Considering the energy it takes to bring building material to the 49th state.
I am in the planning stage of building a house of small footprint size, and looking at the 'best' solution for a 'can-do-it-all' garage door is a big part of it.
Is it possible that nothing has changed or happened?
One like myself, coming from Europe, would think that garages (and their doors) would get especially in the USA, some attention!
Does anyone have an opinion or experience with HaasDoors, posted above from a member?
What if I would be willing to use my (future) house as a 'test-environment' - Who would be interested and able to process & publish the data?!

My garage is going to be heated, most likely a concrete slab with hydronic radiant floor heating, walls ICF's, in Talkeetna, AK.

Once again, thank you for your article and any help or update on garage doors is greatly appreciated.


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Fri, 08/23/2013 - 12:39

Response to Andreas Hermansky
by Martin Holladay, GBA Advisor

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Andreas,
As far as I know, the information in this article still applies, over three years since it was written.

Haas Doors look promising, if only because they are one of the few door manufacturers that doesn't exaggerate (in other words, lie) about the R-value of their doors. However, I have no independent verification of whether Haas Doors perform better than other similar doors.

I was in Talkeetna with my family last summer. We got off the train their for a few minutes -- we were taking the train from Denali National Park to Anchorage. Next time we go to Alaska, we'll have to stay longer.

Good luck.


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Tue, 03/18/2014 - 19:48

Best I could find
by Dirk Gently

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I got a Garaga door after looking at many. BY FAR the best weather stripping I have ever seen. The interlock of the panels seemed better than any other. It allegedly has a thermal break as well. If nothing else get the Garaga weather strip and install it on your existing door/trim.


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